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HoleInOne
Dec 19, 2009, 5:51 pm

Looks like something you may need. 2010 Indy pace car. Looks like a '67.

SMS
Dec 21, 2009, 9:41 am

That will be pretty cool pacing the race!

Not sure why they don't use white as the base color though. Like these!

SMS
Dec 21, 2009, 9:44 am

The last two are good 'ol Hoss from Bonanza as the celebrity (Lorne Greene was there too that year) and Johnny Carson behind the wheel.

67 used white/blue, 69 was white with orange.

ZUL8TR
Dec 21, 2009, 11:28 am

I'm digging the white on orange of the new one. Shows better in color pics where the old worked well in the B&W pics of "old".

SMS
Dec 21, 2009, 12:18 pm

Looking back at my old pic of the Camaro leading 4 Indy cars, I decided to try to figure out who they are. Here is the info on the 67 Race, Mario qualified on the pole, A.J. won. (back in the days when drivers only needed one name to be household personalities) The white car with little front winglets should be Mario.

Also note there were 63 qualifying attempts!

Finish Start No Name Qual Rank Laps Led Status
1 4 14 A.J. Foyt 166.289 4 200 27 Running
2 9 5 Al Unser 164.594 10 198 0 Flagged
3 5 4 Joe Leonard 166.098 5 197 0 Flagged
4 24 69 Denis Hulme 163.376 20 197 0 Flagged
5 11 2 Jim McElreath 164.241 12 197 0 Flagged
6 6 40 Parnelli Jones 166.075 6 196 171 Bearing
7 27 8 Chuck Hulse 162.925 26 195 0 Crash FS
8 13 16 Art Pollard 163.897 15 195 0 Flagged
9 8 6 Bobby Unser 164.752 9 193 0 Flagged
10 23 41 Carl Williams 163.696 18 189 0 Crash FS
11 28 46 Bob Veith 162.580 32 189 0 Flagged
12 3 3 Gordon Johncock 166.559 3 188 0 Spun T3
13 12 39 Bobby Grim 164.084 14 187 0 Crash FS
14 25 10 Bud Tingelstad 163.228 22 182 0 Spun FS
15 21 22 Larry Dickson 162.543 33 180 0 Spun FS
16 14 15 Mel Kenyon 163.778 17 177 0 Crash T3
17 20 21 Cale Yarborough 162.830 30 176 0 Crash T3
18 29 24 Jackie Stewart 164.099 13 168 0 Engine
19 22 12 Roger McCluskey 165.563 7 165 0 Engine
20 30 42 Jerry Grant 163.808 16 162 0 Piston
21 2 74 Dan Gurney 167.224 2 160 2 Piston
22 18 19 Arnie Knepper 162.900 28 158 0 Engine
23 17 98 Ronnie Duman 162.903 27 154 0 Fuel trouble
24 32 48 Jochen Rindt 163.051 25 108 0 Valve
25 19 45 Johnny Rutherford 162.859 29 103 0 Crash T2
26 10 26 George Snider 164.256 11 99 0 Crash NC
27 26 67 LeeRoy Yarbrough 163.066 24 87 0 Crash NC
28 33 32 Al Miller II 162.602 31 74 0 Oil Cooler
29 15 53 Wally Dallenbach, Sr. 163.540 19 73 0 Crash FS
30 1 1 Mario Andretti 168.982 1 58 0 Lost wheel
31 16 31 Jim Clark 163.213 23 35 0 Piston
32 31 81 Graham Hill 163.317 21 23 0 Piston
33 7 25 Lloyd Ruby 165.229 8 3 0 Valves

Qualification Chronology
Att # Date Time Qual
Day Car # Driver
Name Laps Qual
Time Qual
Speed Rank Start Comment
1 05-13 1 1 98 RONNIE DUMAN 4 — 162.903 27 17
2 05-13 2 1 25 LLOYD RUBY 4 — 165.229 8 7
3 05-13 3 1 53 WALLY DALLENBACH 4 — 163.540 19 15
4 05-13 4 1 6 BOBBY UNSER 4 — 164.752 9 8
5 05-13 5 1 43 JACKIE STEWART 4 — 162.221 — — BUMPED BY #56
6 05-13 6 1 27 LUCIEN BIANCHI 3 — — — — WAVED OFF
7 05-13 7 1 29 BOB HURT 4 — 161.261 — — BUMPED BY #23
8 05-13 8 1 39 BOBBY GRIM 4 — 164.084 14 12
9 05-13 9 1 45 JOHNNY RUTHERFORD 4 — 162.859 29 19
10 05-13 10 1 26 GEORGE SNIDER 4 — 164.256 11 10
11 05-13 11 1 5 AL UNSER 4 — 164.594 10 9
12 05-13 12 1 4 JOE LEONARD 4 — 166.098 5 5
13 05-13 13 1 23 LARRY DICKSON 4 — 162.543 33 21
14 05-13 14 1 78 JERRY GRANT 4 — 162.352 — — BUMPED BY #81
15 05-13 15 1 31 JIM CLARK 4 — 163.213 23 16
16 05-13 16 1 12 ROGER MCCLUSKEY 1 — — — — PULLED OFF
17 05-13 17 1 16 ART POLLARD 4 — 163.897 15 13
18 05-13 18 1 2 JIM MCELREATH 4 — 164.241 12 11
19 05-13 19 1 15 MEL KENYON 4 — 163.778 17 14
20 05-13 20 1 74 DAN GURNEY 4 — 167.224 2 2
21 05-13 21 1 1 MARIO ANDRETTI 4 — 168.982 1 1
22 05-13 22 1 14 A. J. FOYT 2 — — — — PULLED OFF
23 05-13 23 1 21 CALE YARBOROUGH 4 — 162.830 30 20
24 05-13 24 1 42 RICHIE GINTHER 3 — — — — PULLED OFF
25 05-13 25 1 3 GORDON JOHNCOCK 4 — 166.559 3 3
26 05-13 26 1 19 ARNIE KNEPPER 4 — 162.900 28 18
27 05-13 27 1 40 PARNELLI JONES 4 — 166.075 6 6
28 05-13 28 1 14 A. J. FOYT 4 — 166.289 4 4
29 05-13 29 1 82 BOB CHRISTIE 2 — — — — PULLED OFF
30 05-13 30 1 57 BOB HARKEY 4 — 162.140 — — BUMPED BY #84
31 05-13 31 1 84 BOB WENTE 3 — — — — ACCIDENT
32 05-13 32 1 41 CARL WILLIAMS 0 — — — — WAVED OFF
33 05-20 33 2 90 PEDRO RODRIGUEZ 4 — 162.352 — — BUMPED BY #10
34 05-20 34 2 42 RICHIE GINTHER 3 — — — — WAVED OFF
35 05-20 35 2 27 LUCIEN BIANCHI 4 — 162.484 — — BUMPED BY #42
36 05-20 36 2 41 CARL WILLIAMS 4 — 163.696 18 23
37 05-20 37 2 12 ROGER MCCLUSKEY 4 — 165.563 7 22
38 05-20 38 2 23 RONNIE BUCKNUM 2 — — — — WAVED OFF
39 05-20 39 2 87 JOCHEN RINDT 4 — 162.389 — — BUMPED BY #24
40 05-20 40 2 56 JIM HURTUBISE 2 — — — — WAVED OFF
41 05-20 41 2 60 MICKEY SHAW 1 — — — — WAVED OFF
42 05-20 42 2 71 BOBBY JOHNS 1 — — — — WAVED OFF
43 05-20 43 2 84 GARY CONGDON 2 — — — — WAVED OFF
44 05-20 44 2 47 NORM BROWN 3 — — — — WAVED OFF
45 05-20 45 2 46 BOB VEITH 4 — 162.580 32 28
46 05-20 46 2 10 BUD TINGELSTAD 3 — — — — PULLED OFF
47 05-20 47 2 69 DENIS HULME 4 — 163.376 20 24
48 05-20 48 2 8 CHUCK HULSE 4 — 162.925 26 27
49 05-20 49 2 20 MASTEN GREGORY 2 — — — — WAVED OFF
50 05-20 50 2 23 RONNIE BUCKNUM 4 — 162.243 — — BUMPS #29; BUMPED BY #67
51 05-20 51 2 84 GARY CONGDON 4 — 161.783 — — BUMPS #57; BUMPED BY #48
52 05-20 52 2 56 JIM HURTUBISE 4 — 162.411 — — BUMPS #43; BUMPED BY #32
53 05-20 53 2 67 LEE ROY YARBROUGH 4 — 163.066 24 26 BUMPS #23
54 05-20 54 2 24 JACKIE STEWART 3 — — — — WAVED OFF
55 05-20 55 2 10 BUD TINGELSTAD 4 — 163.228 22 25 BUMPS #90
56 05-21 56 3 81 GRAHAM HILL 4 — 163.317 21 31 BUMPS #78
57 05-21 57 3 24 JACKIE STEWART 4 — 164.099 13 29 BUMPS #87
58 05-21 58 3 48 JOCHEN RINDT 4 — 163.051 25 32 BUMPS #84
59 05-21 59 3 32 AL MILLER II 4 — 162.602 31 33 BUMPS #56
60 05-21 60 3 17 BOBBY JOHNS 2 — — — — WAVED OFF
61 05-21 61 3 42 JERRY GRANT 4 — 163.808 16 30 BUMPS #27
62 05-21 62 3 11 JIM HURTUBISE 4 — 161.936 — — TOO SLOW
63 05-21 63 3 85 BILL CHEESBOURG 0 — — — — WAVED OFF

Gas turbined-'STP Oil Treatment Special'.This was the first Indianapolis 500 to be televised in color by ABC during ABC's Wide World of Sports.
Andy Granatelli, the CEO of STP, introduced the first turbine-powered car into the Indianapolis 500.

SMS
Dec 21, 2009, 12:33 pm

The shot above must be on a restart, as the cars are not in qualifying order. The race took 2 days in 67.

Here is the original full field:

Andretti / Gurney / Johncock

Foyt (67 500 Winner) / Leonard / Jones (Winner of the 67 Indy 490 in theTurbine car)

Ruby / B Unser / A Unser

SMS
Dec 21, 2009, 12:38 pm

Man I can't wait for May....

RJPKRP
Dec 21, 2009, 6:05 pm

Sorry, I started driving in the 80s...

Think they'll ever bring this body style back?

ZUL8TR
Dec 21, 2009, 7:09 pm

SMS wrote

Man I can't wait for May....

Us too. Would it be bad to put the Indy flag up in December?

Reading through the list of names from '67..a who's who of racing in the 60's.

HoleInOne
Dec 21, 2009, 8:36 pm

RJPKRP wrote

Sorry, I started driving in the 80s...

Think they'll ever bring this body style back?

Dam, I hope not.

Man, Bill those are some cool pictures. Rumor has it they considered the white with orange stripes and settled on the orange with white. The new pace car is on display at the museum currently. Saw that on the news the other night.

andrew
Dec 24, 2009, 5:58 pm

Here is a picture of Bill's friend's garage he sent me. We need a bigger copy of this!

Looks like...
F40
Shelby Daytona
Camaro Pace Car
another Camaro
Countach
MG TD?
Ford GT?
Ferrari 512 Boxer?
Pantera? (between Boxer and Countach)
looks like a vintage Bugatti or something..

No guesses what the red one beside the Camaro is, or the black in the foreground, or the racecar hanging from the ceiling

DC33
Dec 24, 2009, 7:45 pm

Bills friend should be kind enough to take me for a spin in the F40, and Ill return the favor

SMS
Dec 24, 2009, 7:51 pm

Thought the Camaro pace car was a nice touch for this thread. The rest is some great eye candy. My old CT 400s is there along with several significant race winners, factory prototypes, low mile time warpers, etc...

DC33
Dec 25, 2009, 7:25 am

SMS wrote

Thought the Camaro pace car was a nice touch for this thread. The rest is some great eye candy. My old CT 400s is there along with several significant race winners, factory prototypes, low mile time warpers, etc...

well now that youknow where the Countach is, when are you gonna buy it back?

andrew
Dec 25, 2009, 9:36 am

SMS wrote

Thought the Camaro pace car was a nice touch for this thread. The rest is some great eye candy. My old CT 400s is there along with several significant race winners, factory prototypes, low mile time warpers, etc...

I thought that was your Countach. How many others did I guess right?

SMS
Dec 25, 2009, 11:00 am

DC33 wrote

well now that youknow where the Countach is, when are you gonna buy it back?

It's sat there since he bought it and I check in every 6 months or so. It has only gone 5 miles since I had it! He's not selling anytime soon.
Fortunately it is in real good hands and I am happy it's where it is.

Andrew, I think you pegged 'em.

SMS
Dec 28, 2009, 8:27 am

Back on the Pace Cars, the white 67 in that garage shot above is a 396 4 speed car. Original drivetrain, California car with all smog stuff intact. A very rare find.

HoleInOne
Dec 28, 2009, 4:22 pm

Those 396 Camaros were fast but nose heavy and traction was a problem. Fastest Camaros I ever raced were the 302's.

SMS
Jan 4, 2010, 1:57 pm

andrew wrote

Here is a picture of Bill's friend's garage he sent me. We need a bigger copy of this!

Looks like...
F40
Shelby Daytona
Camaro Pace Car
another Camaro
Countach
MG TD?
Ford GT?
Ferrari 512 Boxer?
Pantera? (between Boxer and Countach)
looks like a vintage Bugatti or something..

No guesses what the red one beside the Camaro is, or the black in the foreground, or the racecar hanging from the ceiling

Maybe this pic will come out better.

You forgot the real GT-40.

Black car against the wall is a 1938 Bentley.

The car between the Boxer and Countach is a Lamborghini Espada.

The race car in the ceiling is a 59 Stanguellini Formula Junior. Fiat 4 banger for power.

Pic of a Cobra. Which incidentally is a for real aluminum bodied 427 car. Original unrestored, being prepared for Pebble Beach this year.

Another Camaro shot showing a 69 Pace Car and a 68 SS.

Note yet another Countach on the lift. This one an early LP400. There is a Muria in there someplace also.

Blue car next to the black Fiat V8 something or other is a Lola Can Am car for track days.

Also check out the racks behind the MG storing cars 3 and 4 high.

Funny thing on the 67 Camaro Pace Car, the guy wanted it, but had to buy a whole Camaro/Firebird collection to get the one big block stick car he wanted.

There are around 70 cars in this fantastic collection.

HoleInOne	Dec 19, 2009, 5:51 pm
Looks like something you may need. 2010 Indy pace car. Looks like a '67.

SMS	Dec 21, 2009, 9:41 am
That will be pretty cool pacing the race! Not sure why they don't use white as the base color though. Like these!

SMS	Dec 21, 2009, 9:44 am
The last two are good 'ol Hoss from Bonanza as the celebrity (Lorne Greene was there too that year) and Johnny Carson behind the wheel. 67 used white/blue, 69 was white with orange.

ZUL8TR	Dec 21, 2009, 11:28 am
I'm digging the white on orange of the new one. Shows better in color pics where the old worked well in the B&W pics of "old".

SMS	Dec 21, 2009, 12:33 pm
The shot above must be on a restart, as the cars are not in qualifying order. The race took 2 days in 67. Here is the original full field: Andretti / Gurney / Johncock Foyt (67 500 Winner) / Leonard / Jones (Winner of the 67 Indy 490 in theTurbine car) Ruby / B Unser / A Unser

RJPKRP	Dec 21, 2009, 6:05 pm
Sorry, I started driving in the 80s... Think they'll ever bring this body style back?

ZUL8TR	Dec 21, 2009, 7:09 pm
SMS wrote Man I can't wait for May.... Us too. Would it be bad to put the Indy flag up in December? Reading through the list of names from '67..a who's who of racing in the 60's.

HoleInOne	Dec 21, 2009, 8:36 pm
RJPKRP wrote Sorry, I started driving in the 80s... Think they'll ever bring this body style back? Dam, I hope not. Man, Bill those are some cool pictures. Rumor has it they considered the white with orange stripes and settled on the orange with white. The new pace car is on display at the museum currently. Saw that on the news the other night.

DC33	Dec 24, 2009, 7:45 pm
Bills friend should be kind enough to take me for a spin in the F40, and Ill return the favor

SMS	Dec 24, 2009, 7:51 pm
Thought the Camaro pace car was a nice touch for this thread. The rest is some great eye candy. My old CT 400s is there along with several significant race winners, factory prototypes, low mile time warpers, etc...

DC33	Dec 25, 2009, 7:25 am
SMS wrote Thought the Camaro pace car was a nice touch for this thread. The rest is some great eye candy. My old CT 400s is there along with several significant race winners, factory prototypes, low mile time warpers, etc... well now that youknow where the Countach is, when are you gonna buy it back?

andrew	Dec 25, 2009, 9:36 am
SMS wrote Thought the Camaro pace car was a nice touch for this thread. The rest is some great eye candy. My old CT 400s is there along with several significant race winners, factory prototypes, low mile time warpers, etc... I thought that was your Countach. How many others did I guess right?

SMS	Dec 25, 2009, 11:00 am
DC33 wrote well now that youknow where the Countach is, when are you gonna buy it back? It's sat there since he bought it and I check in every 6 months or so. It has only gone 5 miles since I had it! He's not selling anytime soon. Fortunately it is in real good hands and I am happy it's where it is. Andrew, I think you pegged 'em.

SMS	Dec 28, 2009, 8:27 am
Back on the Pace Cars, the white 67 in that garage shot above is a 396 4 speed car. Original drivetrain, California car with all smog stuff intact. A very rare find.

HoleInOne	Dec 28, 2009, 4:22 pm
Those 396 Camaros were fast but nose heavy and traction was a problem. Fastest Camaros I ever raced were the 302's.